Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are trying to gain the public's respect with the awards and recognitions they receive, according to a royal expert.

Kinsey Schofield, entertainment correspondent and host of the royal podcast "To Di For Daily," recently joined Mike Graham on TalkTV. They talked about Prince Harry's controversial Pat Tillman Award and the petition urging ESPN to reconsider its decision to give the award to the Duke of Sussex after many raised concerns about it, including Tillman's mom, Mary.

"I completely agree with that individual. I honestly see Prince Harry and Meghan Markle accepting more trophies for awards that I don't understand what they're for than this life of service that they promised us. You know how many awards did Meghan accept for a podcast that was canceled and slammed by her own network," Schofield said.

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Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex walk together, ahead of Tonga's Princess Angelika, as they depart from Fua'amotu International Airport on October 26, 2018 in Fua'amotu, Tonga. Phil Noble - Pool/Getty Images

"This is all a game for them. I guess they're trying to buy the public's respect, they're trying to buy a good PR through, you know, networking and creating these opportunities to collect trophies for their mantle. But I think the public sees through these individuals."

Graham claimed that the Susexes are not A-list anymore, and Schofield agreed. She also shared a story about Markle allegedly trying to reconnect with her former "Suits" co-stars and called the move "desperate."

"I don't believe so," Schofield said about the Sussexes being A-list. "And you're even seeing reports over the last few days that Meghan is going to have to resort to asking her 'Suits' castmates to appear on her new Lemonada podcast, talk about a fall from grace. Meghan Markle didn't give these people her new phone number when she ran off with Prince Harry, so to have to call some of them and say, 'Would you mind appearing on my podcast,' that's an act of desperation."

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 Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex attend the Your Commonwealth Youth Challenge reception at Marlborough House on July 05, 2018 in London, England. Yui Mok - WPA Pool/Getty Images

Tillman's mom said she was shocked when she learned that Prince Harry was the recipient of this year's Pat Tillman Award. According to Mary, there are "recipients that are far more fitting" than Prince Harry, whom she considers "controversial and divisive."

Nile Gardiner, the director of The Heritage Foundation and a royal commentator, spoke about the intense backlash Prince Harry received after the announcement of his recent award. Gardiner said the public's response proved he and Markle were no longer popular.

"Harry and Meghan, I would say, [are] increasingly unpopular in the United States. In fact, I describe [them] as two of the most unpopular figures in the US today actually," Gardiner said.

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Britain's Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex leaves after attending a ceremony marking the 10th anniversary of the Invictus Games, at St Paul's Cathedral in central London, on May 8, 2024. JUSTIN TALLIS/AFP via Getty Images
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